My Father-Son Podcast Interview on How to Be a Good Rebel
My Father-Son Podcast Interview on How to Be a Good Rebel
Two hyper-focused, curious hosts are better than one
If there is one societal issue I rally against it’s the age-stratification of social interactions. Many of us spend too much time with people our own age. Much is to be gained by ignoring age as a factor in choosing how you interact with and who becomes your friends.
To illustrate this point, let me share my recent experience on a podcast with a father-son duo interviewing me. And as a bonus, my prior experience being interviewed by a father-son duo. I truly loved these conversations and look forward to the day I am on a podcast led by an entire family of mom, dad, son, daughter, and pet capybara.
I. Decidedly Podcast
Enjoy this deep 60 minute conversation with Sanger Smith and his dad, Shawn Smith. From what I’ve learned conversations are amazing when your interviewed by a father-son combo.
If you’re pressed for time, here are the CHAPTERS of our conversation:
00:00 Experiences of Insubordination
02:26 Introduction of Guest: Dr. Todd B. Kashdan
08:04 The Impact of Purpose on Social Anxiety
09:00 The Importance of Social Clues and Pattern Recognition
10:23 Developmental Factors in Social Anxiety
13:14 The Role of Bullying in Personal Development
18:51 The Impact of Bragging and Narcissism
21:33 The Importance of Giving and Receiving Feedback
24:57 Increased Anxiety and Social Awareness Post-COVID
28:49 The Diminished Ability to Be Curious
29:19 Maintaining Unsatisfied Curiosity in Social Interactions
31:46 The Power of Curiosity
36:22 Cultivating and Calibrating Curiosity
40:39 Curiosity and Insubordination
46:10 Choosing Security or Growth
51:23 The Value of Dissent and Deviation
57:06 Creating a Culture of Curiosity
01:00:31 Collaborating with Adversaries
And if you just want to listen in the car on while doing Pilates, here is a Spotify link:
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II. Being Well Podcast
Here is an all-time favorite interview with my brilliant friend Rick Hanson (check out his bestselling books - here) and his son, Forrest Hanson. They elicit my vulnerable, soft side. Don’t miss my psychological interpretation of Rick.
If you’re pressed for time, here are the CHAPTERS of our conversation:
0:00 Introduction
1:40 Combining skillful positivity and dissent
7:35 Distinguishing principled insubordination and generic misanthropy
10:20 Four elements of principled insubordination
19:35 Yin and Yang applied to insubordination
22:10 Safe havens and a secure base
25:55 How capable are we of cultivating self-awareness?
31:50 Positive intent, courage, and sitting with discomfort
38:50 Strategies for being a moral and effective dissident
47:05 Navigating societal hierarchies
52:40 Process comments as insubordination
53:50 What Todd does when his kids are insubordinate
59:05 Recap
Todd B. Kashdan is an author of several books including The Upside of Your Dark Side (Penguin) and The Art of Insubordination: How to Dissent and Defy Effectively (Avery/Penguin) and Professor of Psychology and Leader of The Well-Being Laboratory at George Mason University.
